Two QQ on the Phaedo

I've posed two questions about Phaedo 82a-c:

1. What else could 'even of these' (kai toutwn) mean at 82a10 besides 'even among these non-philosophers'?

2. Why might Bobonich consistently misrepresent 82a-c when he refers back to it? (Yes, it helps his interpretation. But why might he do so under some cover of justification?)

The answers to these questions, as it turns out, are related (at least, as I see it). But I'm not going to post any more today and will let you know what I think tomorrow, before turning to Bobonich's treatment of the Republic.