tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11017234.post4102187476271929519..comments2023-11-16T07:12:40.867-05:00Comments on Dissoi Blogoi: Perinatal PerceptionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11017234.post-28597768633505719112007-04-16T17:32:00.000-04:002007-04-16T17:32:00.000-04:00Leon,'Equivocation' is probably not the best word ...Leon,<BR/><BR/>'Equivocation' is probably not the best word for what is going on. But perhaps you have caught what I had in mind, which is that, true enough, <I>genesis</I> in similar uses gets translated as 'birth' by Zeyl and others, not simply for the <I>Timaeus</I> but also in other dialogues, and yet (again, in such uses) typically Plato means, I think, the coming to be of a human being through the joining of body and soul. Thus Mahoney is straining to find an appropriate understanding of <I>peri genesis</I>, in the sense of 'around the time of birth', when he really ought to be concerned with <I>peri genesis</I>, in the sense of 'around the time of the origin of a human being'. That's perhaps more a matter of being misled by a translation rather than an equivocation.<BR/><BR/>And then Sedley's rejoinder has force again. Since Plato thinks of the joining of body and soul, it seems, as a definite moment, and since, one might presume, that moment also marks the beginning of perception, then why should Plato's reference to that time have been indefinite?<BR/>MMichael Pakalukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00233648836210188722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11017234.post-9816712229255101582007-04-16T16:37:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:37:00.000-04:00I have not taken the time to peruse the full passa...I have not taken the time to peruse the full passage, but why not 'genesis' as such (in particular, the genesis of the perceptual organs), rather than 'birth'? Also, I find it strange to exclude the stimuli arising from interactions with the womb itself, to the preference of transmitted extra-maternal phenomena. Does the text demand it? And what's the equivocation you'd have us note? - his shifting between a discrete and absolute disruption to a series of compounding ones?Magister Leonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08014424379801392658noreply@blogger.com